Start Time: 10:25:07 pm; End Time: 11:10:32 pm
ptolo formatando o cérebro says: (10:26:03 pm)
was that for me alex?
galaxy says: (10:26:32 pm)
ola
sushizinha de faXina says: (10:26:33 pm)
what a confusion
sushizinha de faXina says: (10:26:50 pm)
i dont like MSN
sushizinha de faXina says: (10:27:13 pm)
...i even can't send files for both at sema time!
ptolo formatando o cérebro says: (10:27:18 pm)
fuck microsoft!!!!!
sushizinha de faXina says: (10:28:15 pm)
you could instal ichat!!!
galaxy says: (10:28:22 pm)
aim
ptolo formatando o cérebro says: (10:28:23 pm)
i liked
sushizinha de faXina says: (10:28:25 pm)
is more fancy
galaxy says: (10:28:27 pm)
for peecee
ptolo formatando o cérebro says: (10:28:29 pm)
and also mika and filipe
ptolo formatando o cérebro says: (10:28:34 pm)
the façades ideia
ptolo formatando o cérebro says: (10:28:53 pm)
that would be great to explore
sushizinha de faXina says: (10:29:24 pm)
sketching on line!!!!
sushizinha de faXina says: (10:29:42 pm)
passing the borders.......bluring them
...develope an ideia in the virtual space....
sushizinha de faXina says: (10:31:26 pm)
making possible to meet whenever we want...
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sushizinha de faXina says: (10:32:30 pm)
where is alex?
galaxy says: (10:32:36 pm)
here
sushizinha de faXina says: (10:32:44 pm)
ok!
galaxy says: (10:32:58 pm)
but continue . . .
sushizinha de faXina says: (10:33:09 pm)
gomes!? wo bist du?
sushizinha de faXina says: (10:34:02 pm)
gominhos!
galaxy says: (10:35:16 pm)
gomeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesch where are you?
sushizinha de faXina says: (10:35:50 pm)
foste de férias?
galaxy says: (10:36:43 pm)
sushizinha de faXina says: (10:36:55 pm)
galaxy says: (10:37:11 pm)
sushizinha de faXina says: (10:37:22 pm)
galaxy says: (10:37:35 pm)
sushizinha de faXina says: (10:37:57 pm)
sushizinha de faXina says: (10:38:43 pm)
alex, lets go to have fun!!!!
ptolo formatando o cérebro has been added to the conversation.
ptolo formatando o cérebro says: (10:38:52 pm)
im here!
sushizinha de faXina says: (10:39:06 pm)
AAAAAAAAAAAAAH
ptolo formatando o cérebro says: (10:39:12 pm)
oh foda-se tou a mais
sushizinha de faXina says: (10:39:51 pm)
gominhos is on the stage!
sushizinha de faXina says: (10:40:24 pm)
you were telling...
ptolo formatando o cérebro says: (10:40:45 pm)
wait!
sushizinha de faXina says: (10:41:55 pm)
diagram+network(s)
ptolo formatando o cérebro says: (10:42:10 pm)
... so the façade idea was a good one
ptolo formatando o cérebro says: (10:42:29 pm)
and the relation we could make out of the region we live in
ptolo formatando o cérebro says: (10:43:29 pm)
we should explore the inteconnection of the livers and the users of public space
sushizinha de faXina says: (10:43:54 pm)
which livers?
ptolo formatando o cérebro says: (10:44:24 pm)
the people who live in a area and the ones that jsut cross it
sushizinha de faXina says: (10:44:44 pm)
ok! but we shouldn't be so specific
sushizinha de faXina says: (10:46:02 pm)
we can use some exemples from our "region"
sushizinha de faXina says: (10:46:16 pm)
but the concept must be universal.
sushizinha de faXina says: (10:46:23 pm)
it means:
sushizinha de faXina says: (10:46:55 pm)
...be applied in a different territory, which is facing the same problems.
sushizinha de faXina says: (10:48:12 pm)
"individualism vs community"
sushizinha de faXina says: (10:48:39 pm)
the fist diagram would be...
sushizinha de faXina says: (10:48:50 pm)
...in my point of view...
ptolo formatando o cérebro says: (10:48:57 pm)
ok
ptolo formatando o cérebro says: (10:49:09 pm)
sunday everybody brings pictures of their houses
ptolo formatando o cérebro says: (10:49:14 pm)
and lets talk about it
sushizinha de faXina says: (10:49:34 pm)
_____private_______semipublic_______public
ptolo formatando o cérebro says: (10:49:35 pm)
i dont work well with groups!
sushizinha de faXina says: (10:49:52 pm)
take it easy.
sushizinha de faXina says: (10:50:43 pm)
can you read our thesis "pPrUiBvLaItCe" until sunday?
ptolo formatando o cérebro says: (10:51:04 pm)
sure
sushizinha de faXina says: (10:51:06 pm)
i think that is a nice start.....to come together on something
ptolo formatando o cérebro says: (10:51:12 pm)
i dont have it though
galaxy says: (10:51:39 pm)
i will send you the link
galaxy says: (10:51:47 pm)
just a second
galaxy says: (10:52:29 pm)
http://www.uni-weimar.de/~glaser1/data/pPrUiBvLaItCe_book.pdf
galaxy says: (10:53:02 pm)
but, some things to say
galaxy says: (10:53:28 pm)
for now and for you, gomes
galaxy says: (10:53:32 pm)
things are open
galaxy says: (10:53:42 pm)
i think we must decide on sunday the first steps
galaxy says: (10:54:00 pm)
and for this we need everybody giving
galaxy says: (10:54:02 pm)
input
galaxy says: (10:54:07 pm)
on sunday
galaxy says: (10:54:19 pm)
so don't think about the group. think about the stuff we all talked
galaxy says: (10:54:34 pm)
what you will read and what you think we could do, not what we should do
galaxy says: (10:55:06 pm)
that's the difference of working in a group
galaxy says: (10:55:13 pm)
to come together
sushizinha de faXina says: (10:55:16 pm)
on sunday
galaxy says: (10:56:02 pm)
my best experiences were like this
galaxy says: (10:56:19 pm)
i never was angry to take something back for something i agreed on
ptolo formatando o cérebro says: (10:56:22 pm)
ok
galaxy says: (10:56:27 pm)
after discussions of course
galaxy says: (10:56:39 pm)
who doesn't like to fight ?
sushizinha de faXina says: (10:56:48 pm)
ich
galaxy says: (10:56:58 pm)
1:0
galaxy says: (10:57:02 pm)
for the guys
"Diagrammatic technique provides a foothold in the fast streams of mediated information. The meaninglessness that repetition and mediation create is overcome by diagrams which generate new, instrumental meanings and steer architecture away from typological fixation.
What is a diagram?
In general, diagrams are best known and understood as visual tools used for the compression of information. A specialist diagram, such as a statistics table or a schematic image, can contain as much information in a few lines as would fill pages in writing. In architecture, diagrams have in the last few years been introduced as part of a technique that promotes a proliferating, generating, and instrumentalizing approach to design. The essence of the diagrammatic technique is that it introduces into a work qualities that are unspoken, disconnected from an ideal or an ideology, random, intuitive, subjective, not bound to a linear logic - qualities that can be physical, structural, spatial or technical.
There are three stages to the diagram: selection, application and operation, enabling the imagination to extend to subjects outside it and draw them inside, changing itself in the process. Diagrams are packed with information on many levels. A diagram is an assemblage of solidified situations, techniques, tactics, and functionings.(...)
The diagram is not a blueprint. It is not the working drawing of an actual construction, recognizable in all its details and with a proper scale. No situation will let itself be directly translated into a fitting and completely correspondent conceptualization. There will always be a gap between the two. By the same token concepts can never be directly applied to architecture. There has to be a mediator.
The mediating ingredient of the diagram derives from its actual format, its material configuration. The diagram is both content and expression. This distinguishes diagrams from indexes, icons, and symbols. The meanings of diagrams are not fixed. The diagrammatic or abstract machine is not representational. It does not represent an existing object or situation, but it is instrumental in the production of new ones. (...)
Why use diagrams?
Diagrammatic practice delays the relentless intrusion of signs, thereby allowing architecture to articulate an alternative to a representational design technique. A representational technique implies that we converge on reality from a conceptual position and in that way fix the relationship between idea and form, between content and structure. When form and content are superimposed in this way, a type emerges. This is the problem with an architecture that is based on a representational concept: It cannot escape existing typologies. Is not proceeding from signs, an instrumentalizing technique such as the diagram delays typological fixation. Concepts external to architecture are introduced rather than superimposed. Instances of specific interpretation, utilization, perception, construction and so on unfold and bring forth applications on various levels of abstraction.
How is the diagram chosen and applied?
The function of the diagram is to delay typology and advance design by bringing in external concepts in a specific shape: as figure, not as image or sign.
But how do we select, insert and interpret diagrams?
The selection and application of a diagram involves the insertion of an element that contains within its dense information something that our thoughts can latch onto, something that is suggestive, to distract us from spiraling into cliche. Although the diagram is not selected on the basis of specific representational information, it is not a random image. The finding of the diagram is instigated by specific questions relating to the project at hand: its location, program and construction. (...) diagrams are essentially infrastructural; they can always be read as maps of movements, irrespective of their origins. They are used as proliferators in a process of unfolding.
How do diagrams become operational?
(...) It has to be set in motion so that the transformative process can begin, but where does this motion originate? (...)
What exactly is the principle that effectuates change and transformation?
How can we isolate this principle and give it the dimensions that make it possible to grasp and use it at will?
The insertion of the diagram into the work ultimately points to the role of time and action in the process of design. Interweaving time and action makes transformation possible (...) the project is set on its course. Before the work diverts into typology a diagram, rich in meaning, full of potential movement, and loaded with structure, which connects to some important aspect of the project, is found. (...) the work becomes un-fixed; new directions and new meanings are triggered.
The diagram operates transforming and liberating architecture."
_The Artificial Landscape "techniques network spin/diagrams"_ben van berkel&caroline bos
uma parte parcial da mari subiu o douro. contemplativa e simultaneamente séptica, clarificou as vontades num douro vinhateiro. cheio de aromas, fruto de quem o estima, e memórias de quem la passou. memórias essas que são ruínas, camufladas no xisto escarpado, estimulam a criatividade e deixam em aberto novas aventuras. a verdade é que propõem-se a mari uma casa isolada no douro, ou aquilo que ainda não foi inventado . . . mas já não há nada a inventar!!!!
pois!
mas ainda há muito para acrescentar a uma atitude de intervenção. mari é idealista, (como todas as maris que possam vir a existir), mas os modernos já não tem lugar neste mundo que é de todos e não apenas de alguns. mari deixa para trás o elitismo académico e arregaça as mangas. mãos à obra qu' a vida não está fácil.
deixemo-nos de pensar local e agir local. já se sabe o quanto ocupa uma casa de banho !!! o nosso LC pensou em tudo . . . mas calma aí. temos que nos controlar! isto não é uma auto estrada ( consciencializem-se que vias rápidas e circulares só aparecem antes de qualquer urbe em portugal). o senhor RK é que pode e manda (nos media) . ele é que sabe homogeneizar o território - pensa global, age global - nós que AINDA somos pequeninos ( mas grandes de coração ) antes de fazer o primeiro risco (primeiro juízo) vamos à praia, seleccionamos o melhor vinho, comparamos os preços das ementas, moderamos a velocidade (que é para chegar à hora certa) e deambulamos de mesa em mesa. ou com o faca ou com o caneta, o risco só "bem" à sobremesa. pensar global, viver local . . . é a nossa estratégia.

MARI ainda é um embrião, sem forma mas com cérebro. somos cinco cabeças, ambiciosas para a construção de meios, físicos e virtuais pelos quais MARI possa crescer e desinibir-se, e que posteriormente seja capaz de se expandir, sem fronteiras físicas, para lugares indeterminados. que desencadeie nos seus contemporâneos, o mesmo olhar ambicioso e a vontade de explorar as liberdades da vida.
quando um dia nos perguntar "papás, como é que eu fui feita?" temos que estar preparados. coleguinhas e criadores de MARI! acham que é satisfatório responder "foste feita com caldo verde e arroz de pato, num restaurante de arquitectos"?
é urgente que se defina a ideia de MARI. que todos proclamem neste àgora os direitos e deveres de MARI, em favor da sua virilidade e em prevenção do devorador consumismo actual.